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This Is How the French Revolution Starts Again

Justin Kan (Co-founder of Twitch)

Justin Kan is a serial founder and investor. In 2007 he co-founded Justin.tv, the livestreaming platform he launched by broadcasting his own life around the clock from a camera strapped to his head. Four years later, the company pivoted into Twitch, which Amazon acquired for $970 million in 2014. He has since founded a string of companies. Today, Justin co-runs the venture firm Goat Capital while building Rye, an API for AI-driven commerce, and Stash, a “Shopify for games.” Having traded a functional drinking habit for sobriety, and a relentless need to prove himself for a more joyful kind of ambition, he is unusually candid about what selling a company for nearly a billion dollars did and didn’t fix. In our conversation, Justin traces the turbulence he sees coming across economics, politics, technology, and more.

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We discuss

  • The “insane backlash” coming as AI cuts white-collar jobs

  • Why he’s betting on a Mamdani-style president in 2028

  • What’s next for education when “~25% of Harvard post-grads are unemployed”

  • Why there’s a “moral imperative” to have kids

  • Fixing America’s “cost disease”

  • Conspiracy Corner: Jedi Powers, and AGI gods

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction

01:23 Why selling Twitch for $970M didn’t heal him

03:50 What ayahuasca revealed about Justin, and getting sober

06:20 The coming wave of AI job dislocation 07:53 His bet: a Mamdani-style president in 2028

08:19 Does the American experiment survive AGI?

09:54 What’s next for education when “~25% of Harvard post-grads are unemployed”

13:10 What people get wrong about the Luddites

14:00 The French Revolution parallel he sees today

16:07 Can democracy survive this media environment?

18:00 Could AI agents glue society back together?

21:07 The one-way door of automating cognitive work

24:54 Robots, gain-of-function, and aging populations

26:39 The moral case for having kids

27:47 Are we the woolly mammoths?

30:18 The housing theory of everything

32:58 NIMBYs and the zucchinis

34:30 Conspiracy Corner: Jedi Powers and AGI gods

Referenced

Where to find Justin

Where to find Scott

Where to find Fifty Years

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